[Abaddon, Beambaddon]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

No PG rigs, cap booster provides necessary cap to run guns, Does 713 DPS has 150k EHP with very good resists.
Similar fit Megathron reaches 710 dps with 109k EHP, still needs to use the cap booster to fuel guns, though cap requirement is more relaxed.
Similar fit Mael has about 120k EHP, doesn't use cap, but deals much lower dps (albeit with good alpha), needs to fit pg mod.
Similar fit Rokh has about 140k EHP with very good resists, uses cap booster for fueling the guns, lacks at dps, but has higher range.

So where is the problem?

If you want to fit tachs, which will deal 770 DPS...what do you want to trade off? It is possbile to fit with 1 pg rig and -1 plate. So you can sacrifice some EHP(down to 120k) to gain DPS.

If you want better cap life 1pg rig -1 plate and put a t2 discharge rig. You'll sacrifice EHP (Down to 120k) to gain cap.

Tradeoffs are there. Amarr have the chance to do the trade EHP or cap for higher damage.

You were mentioning 4-5 cap mods....were you trying to achieve balance at PvE fits??

They have it then :)

That fit will run with cap boosters and MWD off as long as you have them in cargohold. Which is around 6.5 minutes. With careful managing you can stretch this to 8-9 minutes.

All I hear from Amarrians is bickering and senseless crying. Not one constructive post is being made: "WAAAAH Cap WAAAH Fitting etc etc." Try to contribute dammit!!!

The abaddon basically stays the same, so not much to see here.

A fifth = 20%. You should review your maths IMO, because 5% less resistance absolutely not mean 20% less resilience under fire.

And I'd like top know what will make MWD and AB more important than before, and I hardly see how that will hit amarr laser ship considering their range...

Even your bad example show an increase of less 20%.

For example, a hellcat Abaddon will lose ~3% overall resist on ~70-80% resists, which mean 10 to 15% damage more than before.

So in fact you just extracted the highest number you have found to make it appear huge IMO.

The resist bonus calculation is not additive. They are inverse multipliers to "leaked" amount.

If you are at 70% pre-nerf, that means without the ship bonuses your resist was 100-(100-70)/0.75=60%. After nerf your resist will be 100-(100-60)*0.8=68%. So instead of 30 dmg you'll be taking 32 dmg which is 6.66% increase in damage

....and why the hell is this discussed in Large Energy Turret section?!?

%6.6 increase in taken damage on armor is hardly a reason to abandon Abaddon. It will still be the premium armor tanked battleship for fleets. It is still more viable than other alternatives.

Pasting this here too: (From resistance discussion thread)

Call me old fashioned but a good Amarr battleship should be able to fire it's guns at least as long as any competing battleship from another race. When that happens I will call it a buff.

Thank you for contributing instead of whining. Great idea.

@John I find your opinion that heat sinks are not mandatory today stated in the same post while trying to predict fleet doctrines by a bonus that can easily compensated by fitting 1-2 rigs very amusing.

So as laserboat pilot basically you are supposed to force enemy fleet consisting of faster and more agile ships to start fight exactly at 40km with your slower, fatter, slower locking and massively cap dependant bricks with close to 0 utility- and pray to amarrian god (or empress or who do they believe in) that enemy fleet stays where it is.

Btw real numbers instead of kagura trolling :
abaddon - 650 dps at 45k, 3k alpha, fixed damage type, -52 cap/s
maelstrom - 680 dps at 45k, 11k alpha, selectable damage type, 0 cap used
oddysey domi - 660 dps at 45k with gardes, 0 cap used, no pg used, 60 cpu used
oddysey phoon - 900+ dps at 45k range with cruises and drones, no cap used, selectable damage type, 720dps at lock range